Wednesday 11 December 2013

YadBYadUK and terror? Elementary.

Simple detective work can save egg on faces.


 We at Yap have deduced that refers to this, from the homepage of a "diversity org":-



 As the "diversity org" concerned has again clarified via its Twitter feed:-


 
 That written complaint? Pffft.  We at Yap have saved you the trouble.

For information on CAIR and the terrorist links claims and counter claims, there is an informative Wiki article here:-

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_American–Islamic_Relations

In our last post, we raised certain issues.

YadBYadUK has not assuaged our wider concerns regarding this "organisation". We hear the UK Information Commissioner's Office is also wondering why it is not complying with data protection laws, and will be in touch.

We also raise the issue of how it is claiming to know the IP of a Twitter user:-


 Sending phishing links to trick a user is one means of doing this, though that is, of course, against Twitter's terms of service and of doubtful legality.

We at Yap make no comment regarding the sanity or otherwise of the user concerned, though we do note the apparent links of YadBYadUK with the UK branch of the Jewish Defence League, classified as a terrorist organisation in the United States. In the UK. the JDL previously had extensive links with the English Defence League, a violent street movement which is rabidly anti-Muslim.

Another useful Wiki article:-

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League

Concerns raised on the Facebook page of Tell Mama UK about the JDL:-

"The Jewish Defence League UK - Not Representative of Muslim and Jewish Relations in the United Kingdom

  • There comes a time when the volume of anti-Muslim prejudice means that you have to write something public on a group or individual since they are so vocal and so tenacious in the hate that they feel against someone or a group of people. Well, for us, this is such a moment.

    We must, however, add that the following group should not be seen as a reflection of Muslim Jewish relations in the UK. Granted, there are times of tension between these communities, but these are mainly because of international issues and both communities are increasingly coming together to resolve issues affecting them here in the UK, whilst understanding that there may be different positions on matters in the Middle East; though such issues should not over-ride relations here. Also, with the excellent interfaith work of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, the protection to Jewish and occasionally to Muslim communities that the Community Security Trust provides and the warm Muslim Jewish relations between the Masorti and Liberal Jewish communities, the future of Muslim and Jewish relations is a bright one.

    The group in question that we will reflect on is the Jewish Defence League UK. We have previously raised our concerns with this group and we have called on the Home Office to ban this group. A Wiki search of the Jewish Defence League (JDL) brings up previous statements on the FBI who regard the JDL as a 'far right terrorist group' and this was highlighted as long ago as 2001. We have to include another note though, that the JDL UK we believe, comprises of a handful of individuals. One of them is certainly Roberta Moore, who in this link titles herself as 'JDL-UK.' Is this the same Roberta Moore who left the English Defence League after having allegedly co-ordinated their Jewish Division for a while? It seems she finally realised that they were anti-Semitic, as well as anti-Muslim in nature, (the latter having not sent alarm bells ringing in her head since groups that hate 'the other' usually hide an inherent hatred of any community they regard as being different. However, this did not deter Roberta. Her enemies enemy, it seems, was her friend - at least long enough until the scourge of anti-Semitism raised its ugly head and then she was off.)

    We thought we would list some of the tweets coming out from the JDL-UK Twitter account:

    26th Dec 2012 - 7:26 am: Guns save lives. Every law abiding non-Muslim citizen should have one (link attached to article in tweet)

    26th Dec 2012 - 7:25 am: Looks much better than those hideous bimbos with burkas on. Support India in the struggle to save Kashmir. (We are just confused as to where the Kashmir crisis has come into the conscience of the JDL-UK apart from the 'other side' being Pakistani and mainly Muslim?)

    26th Dec 2012 - 7:09 pm: Anyone noticed the deathly silence from the fat pigshit Suha Arafat over her stinking husband's AIDS ridden dead body? (This, a reference to the exhumation of the body of Yasser Arafat on grounds that he may have been poisoned by a radioactive source. The inference here is that no comments from Suha mean that nothing untowards has been found and that Arafat died due to Aids - according to the high scientific analysis of the JDL. Additionally, the 'pigshit' comment against Suha Arafat shows the lack of information and depth of the JDL-UK. A bit of research would have found out that Suha is not Muslim but Christian and still attends mass!)

    24th Dec 2012 - 5:09 pm: There is NOTHING #British about #Muslims in #Britain, (link to JDL article provided in tweet)

    24th Dec 2012 - 10:26 am: Mr anti-everything brainwashed liar if (sic) the week. Go suck some araB ****. (This was tweeted to an individual who was disagreeing with the positions of the JDL-UK and was also copied to two ardent anti-Muslim tweeters who have been reported into the police by TELL MAMA).

    Around the 21st of Dec 2012: Muzzies pissed off = JDL happy (Muzzies being a slang 'put down' for Muslims. Seems to make EDL sympathisers jump up and down with glee as they play out their keyboard warrior instincts)

    We thought that we would give you a snapshot of this group and with further details available through the Faith Hate Report which Faith Matters compiled. No doubt, we will continue to campaign to have this group proscribed since not only are they campaigning against ALL Muslims, they are a disgrace and a slap in the face for all campaigners working towards positive Muslim and Jewish relations. "

http://faith-matters.org/images/stories/edl%20report.pdf

The Curator


Tuesday 19 November 2013

Debate is good? Will YadBYadUK debate?

We at Yap agree genuine debate is good. We agree users need to feel safe online. We agree hate speech is bad, which is why we have previously highlighted the anti-Muslim hate displayed  by YadBYadUK "staff".  *Please see sidebar for links to previous blogs*.



 Unfortunately, we see no sign of intelligent debate coming from YadBYadUK; we see only attempts to close off any questioning of the so-called organisation,  its structure, the qualifications and expertise of its "staff" to engage in anti-hate work (or even recognise genuine anti-Semitism and racism) and reporting.

We question its compliance with laws of data protection. There is no indication at all it has any legal expertise regardingto the laws surrounding hate crime or malicious communications. In reality, we see it as promoting hate, bullying other users, and making people feel unsafe online.



With "advisors" such as this, can it, it and should it, be taken seriously? We think not.


Yad claims it will be "taking statistics" which will be released "January 2013". We assume it means 2014.

We challenge the claimed co "founder" of YadBYadUK and registrant of its website,  Ambrosine Chetrit (Shitrit), to answer questions about the claimed "organisation", to be open, to explain if this is a charity, a not for profit, or simply a front for bullying and attempting to close down Twitter accounts of those with whom she disagrees.

We ask what external academic verification of these "statistics" it can demonstrate, what academic institutions with which it has been in dialogue?  Has it engaged in any type of dialogue with genuine, accepted reporting organisations such as @CST_UK and @TellMAMAUK regarding its methodology?

We ask what qualifies the "staff" of this "organisation" to believe it has the right to make "reports" and allegations of anti-Semitism and even racism, and what nationally (and internationally) accepted criteria it uses as its benchmark?

We believe the answer is none.

There is already a long standing organisation, the Community Security Trust, in existence, to report anti-Semitism.  It is open, accountable and trusted by the Jewish and wider community, including police,  to act in a fair and responsible manner, and judge what is genuine anti-Semitism and racism and what is not.

We suggest YadBYadUK is a worrying development in the reporting of hate crime, haters pretending to be anti-bullying and anti-hate in order to bully those with which it disagrees politically.

We make the suggestion it is a front for bigotry. We believe its purpose is to close down informed debate.

If it wishes to debate the issues raised here,  the comment box and our Twitter account are available.

We feel we may have a long wait.




The Curator.





Sunday 3 November 2013

Sheryl's whacky world

We have met Sheryl previously.

http://yappyapuk.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/pinocchio.html


Sheryl's world is one of dichotomies.

Sheryl's tweeting style, if not language,  can be described as Churchillian, making her declarations and expounding her views and opaque philosophies from her war bunker in the Scottish Highlands.


Clearly, Sheryl perceives herself to be a leader of opinion, and is permanently on the warpath, fighting her enemies using her keyboard as her weapon of choice.

One the one hand Sheryl claims to be "against hate" and anti-Semitism, and a "supporter of Israel".

One the other hand, though she claims not to support the English Defence League or British National Party,



Sheryl declares she "does not like Islam" and acts as an online "ma" to the waifs and strays of the far right, who look to her for succour and support in spreading their hate.

Here, for example, is Sheryl and far right  activist "Walsall Infidel", having a cosy chat post-Woolwich murder of Lee Rigby and the attacks on mosques which followed:



Is Sheryl making the suggestion Tell MAMA, a project for recording, reporting, and combating hate crimes against Muslims, was in some way implicated in the attacks on mosques, in order to attract funding? Is she suggesting Tell MAMA (a project of the parent Faith Matters organisation)  and those who attacked mosques, such as Pavlo Lapshyn, are somehow in league with each other?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/extremist-pavlo-lapshyn-admits-murdering-elderly-muslim-man-and-committing-mosque-attacks-in-attempt-to-spark-race-war-8894780.html

 In the genius mind of Sheryl, anything is possible.

Or take her friendship with an online troll called VDissidentZ. Over their night time Horlicks,  here they are having a cosy chat, with "ma" Sheryl uttering soothing words to wipe away the stresses trolling brings:
 
 


And here, Sheryl expounding her views of what will happen to their enemies:

 
 
 

Is this the very same VDissidentZ  who crooned and swooned over the leader of the English Defence League? It is indeed.




"Oh dear, with more retweets of Stephen Lennon , our troll is starting to exhibit behaviours that people could say, show a Far Right set of sympathies."



Chief?



"Just as you thought that the sycophancy could not get any worse, guess who asks Stephen Lennon to take care of himself after Lennon states that he was ‘walking 24 miles around Tower Hamlets on Friday the 13th’? You guessed right! The stomach churning plea to Stephen Lennon states, ‘stay safe chief.’ Does our very own troll belief that Stephen Lennon is the leader, the chief? Oh how the heart patters with missed beats at the thought of Lennon being out there."

 http://tellmamauk.org/tag/vdissidentz/


So, having fought them on the beaches while flicking her V sign and playing with her toy soldiers, Sheryl again shows who her allies are, and here we see her having a discussion with 'Simon the Rev C",  self-styled leader of Watford English Defence League:

Yes, the same "The Rev" whose tweets with English Defence League former leader "Tommy Robinson" are detailed here:
 
 
 
and whose dislike of Muslims spills over into the sort of twisted hatred any sensible person would consider would make "against hate" Sheryl shun him.
 
 
 
NB: Sheryl does not dispute the impression gained by her friend "The Rev" that she supports "a protest group" the English Defence League. Sheryl is far more concerned with the idea of an organisation suing people apparently for their faith, not because of any libellous comments they are alleged to have made:
 
 
 
Clearly, the reader is being given the impression by Sheryl the Tell MAMA organization is in some way anti-Semitic in singling out persons of a particular faith to pursue through libel claims, and not for any defamatory statements those persons may have made.

Here she is again, though Sheryl has by now forgotten what she put out in the past and remembers, as it now suits her purpose, those being sued include a Sikh man:



Quite so. The probability that anyone would be sued under English law simply for reasons of faith or race stretch the credulity once again of any informed person, but Sheryl's desire for keyboard victory at any cost leads her make statements which could be construed as libellous, and from which she appears to hope inferences are be made that an interfaith, anti-hate organisation is, in fact, acting against the very reasons for its existence.

Another of YadBYadUK Sheryl's online allies in her constant battle waging is '"Chayalim Bodedim". Give her her due, Sheryl does see her friend as sometimes "going over the top" from his place in the trenches, though she, switching to "ma" mode, forgives as she "understands".




So what is this "going over the top" which Sheryl, soothingly, and with a cheery "lol" understands? Is it the occasional outburst of frustration and temper after the stresses and strains of a hard day?

Here we present a small selection of tweets from her super duper lone trooper which the "anti-hate" Sheryl admits as "a bit over the top",  but which she "understands":












 Tough guy? "Ma" Sheryl understands. Her "anti-hate" organisation understands too:




Yes, some are blind to "truth and fact". Sheryl understands her friend. Sheryl is always there when her friend has an "off day", "ma" Sheryl understands the naughties and their views:

"Engaging them in conversation could prevent them getting run over. Let life take its course."

Sheryl can "fight them on the beaches" using her battalions of toy soldiers, but fighting "them" with logic and fact is missing from her armoury. Tweeting at someone, then claiming she will "report" them?








The Curator

Postscript



Wednesday 16 October 2013

Haters and hate


"None so deaf as those that will not hear. None so blind as those that will not see."

Matthew Henry 


The evidence suggests otherwise. This is the founder of YadBYadUK:





This is one of  YadBYadUK staff who found that to be amusing:


This is the same member of staff of YadBYadUK  making defamatory and abusive comments, also suggesting violence towards a genuine anti-hate organisation, Tell MAMA :

http://tellmamauk.org/about-us/

Tell MAMA (Measuring Ant-Muslim Attacks)   is a government backed project which deals with monitoring and countering anti-Muslim prejudice. Its work has been verified by Teesside University Centre for Fascist, Anti-Fascist and Post-Fascist Studies.

http://www.tees.ac.uk/docs/DocRepo/Research/Copsey_report3.pdf


It appears YadbYadUK founder and staff member is in dispute with Tell MAMA

This blog entry is on its site. Evidence presented suggests YadBYadUK speaks with a forked tongue when it claims it does not support hating any group of people.

http://tellmamauk.org/mrs-ambrosine-shitrit-i-am-not-anti-muslim/


Mrs Ambrosine Shitrit – ‘I am not anti-Muslim…….’


Today’s Jewish Chronicle piece by In the Jewish Chronicle piece she states, ‘I am not anti-Muslim, I am not an EDL supporter...
Well, we have decided to post just a handful of the kind of tweets that were sent to us by members of the public who found her statements anti-Muslim in nature. Here are some of the tweets:
14-06-2013 Shitrit 2
So all Muslims, as to this tweet of the 1st of August 2012 makes clear, are the enemies of Jews. Slightly paranoid or someone who thinks that all Muslims are the same? You see, it could easily be understood from the tweet that Mrs Ambrosine Shitrit thinks that all Muslims are against Israelis. Is this not prejudicial thinking?
Here is some more tweet activity from Mrs Ambrosine Shitrit, with the tweet below being retweeted by Mrs Ambrosine Shitrit in 2012. The tweet says, “The Hadith tells us that muhamed’s penis was so long, it would leave his tent n go from tent to tent of his many wives! – How sanitary!” Nothing within any further text put out by Mrs Shitrit contextualised the retweet. In other words she did not follow up by saying that she disagreed with the tweet and was highlighting it for example. It was simply retweeted, one can assume, since she agreed with it.
14-06-2013 Shitrit 3
And here are some more tweets from Mrs Ambrosine Shitrit, the first is not specifically anti-Muslim in nature though it expresses a view that is deeply distasteful. The second shows Mrs Ambrosine Shitrit likes a You-Tube video from Pamela Geller and the virulently anti-Islamic and anti-Muslim, Geert Wilders.
14-06-2013 Shitrit 4
14-06-2013 Shitrit 5
Whatever the rights and wrongs of positions in the Middle East, Mrs Shitrit thinks that the deceased activist, Rachel Corrie who died in the West Bank, was a Nazi.The next tweet shows her liking for a Pamela Geller You Tube video with Geert Wilders.
And yet more evidence of retweets which could be regarded as deeply prejudicial were promoted by Mrs Ambrosine Shitrit. For example, Mrs Shitrit retweets the following about the Israeli Arab population within Israel. “If Israel is ethnically cleansing the place of Arabs, they are doing a pretty crappy job of it – I thought that Jews were clever.”
14-06-2013 Shitrit 6
We could go on for some time on these matters but here is a Facebook posting by Mrs Ambrosine Shitrit – Prejudicial? Well you make your own mind up. So, in earnest, Mrs Shitrit – does what you say stand up? We think not!
All Muslims
The Curator




Thursday 3 October 2013

Pinocchio

Sheryl, a leader of the cult of Ambrosinianism, apparently giving a coded message to its followers?



The @debatingculture Twitter handle was suspended, is this secret code for its supporters to  report en masse to Twitter so free speech is denied to those who oppose this cult?

 Was this the "threat"?

An Email to Ambrosine Chetrit: Detailing Her Lies and Smear Campaign About Me and Others

2OCT
Debating Culture BlogDear Ambrosine,
Yesterday evening, you or one of your cohort had my twitter account suspended simply because I called you all out for your lies and hypocrisy and swore at you, due to your constant efforts to smear and discredit myself and others.
I do not know whether it was you who was on the YadbYad account yesterday at that particular time, but I do have several screen grabs confirming a ‘mass block and report’ , to have my account suspended. I have no doubt that you are the one who instigated this harassment against me, as your (Ambrosine Chetrit) own account has attempted to undermine the named registrant of the YadbYad website. You and Sheryl McNaught both claim to be pro free speech, but then you have me mass blocked me?? Because I challenge you?, What vile hypocrites you both are!
Do you remember when you (both) accused me of being Richard Armbach and got one of your lapdogs to phone my home and threaten me and pretending to be from CST? Yes, I do. I (subsequently) contacted CST and they confirmed it was not them or me.
. Sheryl has since tweeted to me that it was (all) joke? Well, I didn’t not find it a joke. Especially as my children are all under 16 yo.
That is why I returned to twitter. So, all the shit I now bring you, is of your own making. Not only have you actively attempted (to) threaten and to put a stop to mine or anyone else’s freedom of speech who challenges or disagrees with your view, but you persist in labelling me as sexist, racist, antiSemitic and a rapists.
None of which is true, of course. but it suits you to repeat such claims and accusations, especially because of your(MrsShitrit’s) libel case with TellMaMa and its Director.
Speaking which, I have no doubt it is true that you have libelled (the Director of) TellMaMa, because I have screen capped some of your libellous tweets referring to HNH and TellMaMa as having links with terrorist organisations. In the case of Sheryl, your comrade; on no less than eight occasions did she libel TelMaMa. I know because I screen grabbed every single tweet and passed on to TellMaMa’s Director. The only reason Sheryl isn’t now being sued, is because she cried poverty and claimed she is in receipt of state benefits. My assumption is that a cost benefit analysis was (conducted) as to whether the cost of (legal) fees would outweigh (the) damages she would have to pay.
Returning to your references and labels of me being sexist, racist, antiSemitic and a rapist, your statements are factually untrue, damaging to me and therefore libellous. As such, you will from this moment on CEASE and DESIST from referring or making (such) statements about me (…..). If I see one more tweet from you, Yad or your cohorts even suggesting that I am any of these things, I will bankrupt you and your family. On that, you have my solemn word.Note: I NEVER break my word!
In reference to claims that I am a rapist or threaten rape, you are well aware of the circumstances. You know full well that I was trolled, and continue to be trolled by multiple twitter accounts to this day; that my personal data has been published on various websites and that my family have been harassed. You also know full well that the comment of rape was deliberately taken out of context and used to smear me. You know I am homosexal and as a ‘gay, married man’ (as I am), I cannot commit an act of rape against a woman and no court of law would ever pursue a case against me (nor have I ever had any contact from the police about), because (it) is clearly not feasible that I could even contemplate committing such an act. You are also aware that I was active with the fbrape campaign and continue to support @EverydaySexism.
That you constantly call me sexist is also wrong and again intended to smear me. You do so quite deliberately, in the sad  hope it will somehow help you in your defence of the libel claim brought against you for your smears of Fiyaz and TellMaMa. Yes, I swear; but when I do refer to someone as a bitch, I use it against both men and women. In your case, I believe you are a schemer, hateful, conniving and spiteful. I do so because your behaviour is abhorrent and so is that of others (like you.) Notice I only use such terms when someone is attacking me online, spreading untruths and misinformation, being malicious or spouting offensive racism.
Re (your claims of me being) racist, you know I am black. Therefore, I can only be racist or prejudice in the same (way) as racism, if the person is not black. My reference to Chris Brown, to which you refer to accuse me of racism, was an angry comment I made because, as (he is) a man who beats women, makes him worthless in my eyes. It shames me therefore that he denigrates my (heritage), (my) community (and the struggle and hate my community have experienced throughout history). This is clearly not racism and you, Sheryl and others (know it, but) have deliberately taken this out of context and used to your advantage (in attempting to smear and discredit).
In fact, it is you who is the racist. Your reference to Tutu being antiSemitic, Damilola Taylor’s father being on the gravy train, Mandela being a terrorist, steering clear of Muswell Hill after the racist arson attack (because of the Muslims protesting and antiFascists who might be protesting there), suggesting Guantanamo is a good idea, joking about (a) Palestinian being killed by a rock that bounced off a car? Yes, you are a racist and I have all the tweets to confirm this. You also call me antiSemite? Check my name, hon. Yes, I call you a Zionazi because you are a zealous nationalist, who is intolerant of anyone who is not Jewish and does not agree with you. You have even applauded maiming, death and torture in your tweets. That you would allow the torture, imprisonment, displacement and subjugation of Palestinians makes you a Zionazi. That you libel Lee Jasper (Yes, I made him aware!) and that you suggest Mehdi Hassan has contacts with Hamas, clearly makes you the racist and a Zionazi. You are clearly an intolerant, rightwing nationalist… in my view. Your associations with Geller, Murray et al confirm this. I am only intolerant of haters, such as yourself, which is why I swear at and challenge you. You seriously need to check yourself and have a long, long look in the mirror.
Oh, and what about your media campaign to discredit HNH and Tell MaMa? Yes, I know you instigated everything in the press; as a direct consequence of the libel proceedings issued against you. Raheem and Marcus have both confirmed as much. Not only this, but you then write to CST accusing Ev of being antiSemitic, which you then leak to @_NewseXtra and is published online and you do not even have the decency to retract? You are so lucky Ev isn’t suing you, because you are truly vile and disgusting, which is why I pity you so much! Claiming you were hacked and reporting TellMaMa to the police for it? Pfft! Absolute bollocks, you lying bitch! I pulled your details from a web search.
You should know that I will be airing a radio show about you and YadbYad and what you have done and how malicious you are. It will be entirely factual and based on your own tweets, that I have screen grabbed. You are welcome to come on and defend yourself… just reply to this email.
One last thing, as YadbYad is an organisation, i) can you please confirm whether it/ you are registered under the Data Protection Act to collate personal data; ii) what data you hold about me; iii) if and to whom you have disclosed mine and others’ personal data and; iv) whether you have sought consent to hold others’ personal data YadbYad hold?
Feel free to inform your solicitor of this email. I would love to see you in court :-)
Look forward to hearing you.
Kind regards,
Jason Schumann
Aka @debatingculture
Author’s Notes:
1. This was an email sent to YadbYad UK and Ambrosine Shitrit earlier today.
2. The content and claims detailed are entirely factual and based on tweets by YadbYad UK and Ambrosine Shitrit over the last 12-months.
3. Where brackets appear () the text in between represents an addition to the original email, either to correct an error or make further emphasis.
4. Mrs Chetrit knows where I am if she wishes to try and sue me.
5. Jason Schumann (me) is currently studying for his MSc in European Law & and is also an advisor to the Anna Lindh Foundation, and a recognised expert of EU Copyright and Data Protection Law.

 /http://debatingculture.wordpress.com/2013/10/02/an-email-to-ambrosine-chetrit-detailing-her-lies-and-smear-campaign-about-me-and-others/




 Go against the cult and they don't like it.




Can Sheryl name whoever she says is encouraging a "hate campaign" or is her nose growing longer and longer?


 It sounds to us at Yap Yap the hate campaign is not by one Jason Schumann.
 

The Curator


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